1 00:00:46,463 --> 00:00:49,132 A NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES 2 00:02:23,894 --> 00:02:26,188 - Thanks for coming. - You are welcome. 3 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:28,899 I noticed that I don't know much about his life in Boston. 4 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:31,985 In addition to his university position. Do you have a husband? 5 00:02:32,611 --> 00:02:34,571 - No. - Children or...? 6 00:02:34,946 --> 00:02:35,947 No. Neither. 7 00:02:36,031 --> 00:02:38,742 I watched his work here. I'm shocked. 8 00:02:38,825 --> 00:02:40,327 Well, thank you very much. 9 00:02:40,410 --> 00:02:44,164 And I'm not the only one. There is growing interest in your project. 10 00:02:44,247 --> 00:02:48,418 I was thinking. Agents Tench and Ford They can't do it alone. 11 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:52,214 Would you be interested in managing the project? keep you on track 12 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:54,508 with a stable position at Quantico? 13 00:02:54,591 --> 00:02:58,011 - Can't. - You don't have to answer now. 14 00:02:58,095 --> 00:03:01,598 I am honored, but I already have a position in Boston. 15 00:03:01,682 --> 00:03:04,309 Your knowledge and professionalism 16 00:03:04,393 --> 00:03:07,938 have already affected our idea of behavioral sciences. 17 00:03:08,647 --> 00:03:11,775 It would be a shame not to take advantage of that. 18 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,485 Take your time. 19 00:03:16,571 --> 00:03:17,614 Think about it. 20 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:27,040 Don't discuss it with Tench or Ford. until making a decision. 21 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:27,999 Don't they know? 22 00:03:28,083 --> 00:03:28,917 No. 23 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,549 I have two questions For you, Benjamin. First... 24 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:38,468 - Is it on? - Yes. 25 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:41,513 Why the fuck were you crying last time? 26 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:43,724 And second, and this is important, 27 00:03:43,807 --> 00:03:45,600 so pay attention. 28 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:47,394 Are you listening to me? Benji? 29 00:03:48,729 --> 00:03:51,982 Why? Why did you do that to Beverly Jean? 30 00:03:54,151 --> 00:03:56,403 Broken jaw. Two purple eyes. 31 00:03:56,903 --> 00:03:57,779 Why? 32 00:03:58,363 --> 00:04:01,658 Fourteen stab wounds to the torso with a kitchen knife. 33 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:04,202 Blow to the head, trauma. 34 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:06,413 Amputated breasts. 35 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:08,665 I need to know. 36 00:04:09,958 --> 00:04:12,043 Why did you do that to your girlfriend? 37 00:04:12,127 --> 00:04:13,003 I didn't do it. 38 00:04:13,086 --> 00:04:14,838 You say it was Frank? 39 00:04:21,470 --> 00:04:24,973 He called us. He was out of his mind. I went there. 40 00:04:26,349 --> 00:04:28,351 - And...? - I entered the room, 41 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:30,937 and she was passed out on the ground, tied. 42 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:32,522 Did he tell you what happened? 43 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:34,399 He was a mess. 44 00:04:34,483 --> 00:04:38,153 I think he tried to have sex, She didn't want to and he hit her. 45 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:40,739 - Is that why you called? - Call if there are problems. 46 00:04:40,822 --> 00:04:43,325 - But was she still alive? - Yes. 47 00:04:43,408 --> 00:04:45,786 -And why did you kill her? - Don't answer. 48 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:52,918 I didn't kill her. 49 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,798 Why would a man do that to her? to a woman's breasts? 50 00:04:57,881 --> 00:05:02,010 Who would cut him with a knife the reproductive organs? 51 00:05:02,093 --> 00:05:03,220 Very good. 52 00:05:03,303 --> 00:05:05,180 What's good about it? 53 00:05:05,263 --> 00:05:07,474 Enough. My client is also a victim. 54 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:12,354 Victim? Interesting, thanks. Easy question. Why the hair? 55 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:15,273 - You don't need to answer. - Did you cut his hair? 56 00:05:15,357 --> 00:05:20,237 Frank seems to believe that Beverly Jean I was interested in dating others. 57 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,241 - He came from the hairdresser, right? - One more question. 58 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,828 Did stabbing her in the ass make you feel...? 59 00:05:27,911 --> 00:05:29,079 Pure speculation. 60 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:31,498 There is the death penalty in Pennsylvania, right? 61 00:05:31,581 --> 00:05:32,666 Don't threaten him. 62 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:35,585 Tell us you're not a monster. Give us a reason. 63 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:36,962 He fucked Frank. 64 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:38,838 Did he tell you? 65 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:40,257 - I saw it. - What did you see? 66 00:05:41,967 --> 00:05:46,054 I saw her on the living room floor. Frank was on top of her. 67 00:05:46,137 --> 00:05:47,681 And what did you do? 68 00:05:47,764 --> 00:05:49,683 - Nothing. - Didn't you do anything? 69 00:05:49,766 --> 00:05:51,226 - No. - Didn't you hit him? 70 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:53,937 - No. - And her? 71 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:56,606 Why would she want have sex with Frank? 72 00:05:57,399 --> 00:05:59,901 He always said he liked her hair. 73 00:06:01,736 --> 00:06:03,196 Every time I saw her. 74 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:09,286 But he didn't care about his hair. He only said it to irritate me. 75 00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:12,831 She was too stupid to realize it. 76 00:06:13,081 --> 00:06:14,541 And then you killed her? 77 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:15,792 I didn't kill her. 78 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:18,962 She was already dead when he stabbed her. 79 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:22,257 She was already dead. 80 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:26,177 - Did you rape her in front of him? - He said that? 81 00:06:26,261 --> 00:06:27,929 With your brother-in-law's girlfriend? 82 00:06:28,013 --> 00:06:30,974 -To show you how it's done? - To bother him? 83 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:32,809 Go to hell. 84 00:06:34,102 --> 00:06:36,271 I hope they fry your ass in the chair. 85 00:06:36,354 --> 00:06:37,856 Don't try to intimidate him. 86 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:46,156 If Benjamin killed her, tell us. 87 00:06:47,991 --> 00:06:49,659 I didn't see Benji kill her. 88 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,424 I hate that fucking Frank, but it's always the boyfriend. 89 00:07:04,507 --> 00:07:06,885 If you are lost, you bet. It's Benjamin. 90 00:07:06,968 --> 00:07:08,178 I'm not so sure. 91 00:07:08,678 --> 00:07:11,431 you should have seen to Frank when you came out. 92 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:14,225 He looked at me and said: "I didn't see Benjamin kill her." 93 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:16,186 - They lie. - I believed him. 94 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:19,439 - I'm sick of this hole. - Me too. 95 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:24,361 Hey, Nancy made me promise that I would invite you to dinner. 96 00:07:24,861 --> 00:07:28,657 He wants to see who I spent so much time with. Take a look at you. 97 00:07:31,034 --> 00:07:32,118 I would love to. 98 00:07:34,162 --> 00:07:36,706 - Can I go with Debbie? - Clear. 99 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:40,293 Thank you. 100 00:07:42,212 --> 00:07:43,755 I saw Benji. 101 00:07:43,838 --> 00:07:47,342 He took his head with his hands, he cried. 102 00:07:48,426 --> 00:07:50,804 There is a lot of blood. 103 00:07:51,221 --> 00:07:52,555 And it splashes everything. 104 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,810 Then I saw Beverly Jean in the bathtub. 105 00:07:57,769 --> 00:07:59,145 Was she alive? 106 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:07,237 I saw Benji. 107 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,281 He took his head with his hands, he cried. 108 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:14,077 There is a lot of blood. 109 00:08:14,661 --> 00:08:16,204 And it splashes everything. 110 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:19,749 Then I saw Beverly Jean in the bathtub. 111 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:25,130 She was there. 112 00:08:27,966 --> 00:08:29,259 Why do you say that? 113 00:08:31,094 --> 00:08:32,429 "Splash." 114 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:34,556 It's not "splashes" on the wall, 115 00:08:34,639 --> 00:08:36,641 use a verb in the present tense. 116 00:08:36,725 --> 00:08:39,019 It says "splash." 117 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:45,900 There is a lot of blood. 118 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:48,153 And it splashes everything. 119 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:53,366 Beverly Jean was alive when Rose arrived. 120 00:08:53,992 --> 00:08:55,076 Heavens. 121 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:01,166 All three are involved. 122 00:09:02,042 --> 00:09:03,293 That's right. 123 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:11,551 It's very adult. 124 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:15,055 - What? - This. 125 00:09:15,722 --> 00:09:18,058 Go to dinner at your partner's house. 126 00:09:18,516 --> 00:09:20,685 That you wear a tie and are nervous. 127 00:09:20,769 --> 00:09:22,145 I'm not nervous. 128 00:09:22,979 --> 00:09:26,149 - If you don't want to go, say so. - I want to go. 129 00:09:26,232 --> 00:09:28,234 You could be less sarcastic. 130 00:09:28,318 --> 00:09:30,570 Why do you think I'm sarcastic? 131 00:09:49,172 --> 00:09:50,256 That's better. 132 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:08,942 Hello. Welcome. Forward. 133 00:10:09,025 --> 00:10:12,195 hello! It's good that you came. Come in. 134 00:10:12,278 --> 00:10:13,947 -Nancy. -Bill. 135 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:15,782 Debbie. I heard a lot about you. 136 00:10:15,865 --> 00:10:17,909 What would Holden have told you? 137 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:21,079 I was dying to meet you. How did it take us so long? 138 00:10:21,162 --> 00:10:23,039 I was also dying to meet you. 139 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:28,545 Heavens. They are babies. 140 00:10:29,379 --> 00:10:31,172 A glass of wine? 141 00:10:31,256 --> 00:10:32,215 I would love to. 142 00:10:32,298 --> 00:10:34,676 I have a lot to tell you. 143 00:10:34,759 --> 00:10:36,052 Come, I'll help you something. 144 00:10:40,932 --> 00:10:42,142 hello! 145 00:10:43,017 --> 00:10:44,144 Say hello, Brian. 146 00:10:46,521 --> 00:10:49,232 I also had those as a child. 147 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:56,698 I played to see how high I would go before it collapsed. 148 00:11:02,287 --> 00:11:03,288 Can I? 149 00:11:13,882 --> 00:11:15,466 It's almost time to brush your teeth. 150 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:20,263 Come, let's go have a drink. 151 00:11:21,973 --> 00:11:24,851 I'm old to spend it in cheap hotels. 152 00:11:24,934 --> 00:11:26,227 And road grills. 153 00:11:26,311 --> 00:11:28,771 And bars where they don't know how to make a martini. 154 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:31,274 I know how to make martinis. 155 00:11:31,357 --> 00:11:33,610 - Nancy makes the best ones. -Yes? 156 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,445 If I know how to do anything, it's that. 157 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:38,865 And you? 158 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:42,285 - I don't know how to make martinis. - But he knows how to drink them. 159 00:11:42,952 --> 00:11:45,496 No. Where are you from? Bill doesn't tell me anything. 160 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:48,333 I know about the traveling classes, but... 161 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:50,043 Does he tell you? 162 00:11:50,126 --> 00:11:52,378 Yes. Holden loves to talk. 163 00:11:52,462 --> 00:11:55,048 Do you see it? You can talk about things. 164 00:11:58,134 --> 00:11:59,218 Where were you born? 165 00:12:01,012 --> 00:12:02,013 Let me guess. 166 00:12:02,639 --> 00:12:04,641 Not in New York, that's for sure. 167 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:07,769 You're more from the center of the country. 168 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:08,895 See? 169 00:12:08,978 --> 00:12:10,730 I was born in Brooklyn. 170 00:12:13,733 --> 00:12:15,944 Yes. I don't know why you find it funny. 171 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:17,195 Sorry. 172 00:12:19,113 --> 00:12:21,491 No problem. Make fun. 173 00:12:22,784 --> 00:12:24,243 Where was he before? 174 00:12:25,286 --> 00:12:27,997 In an orphanage, for 13 months. 175 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:32,919 But we couldn't find out where he had been before. 176 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,088 How did it get there... 177 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,632 - Are you going to have children? - No. 178 00:12:38,341 --> 00:12:39,592 At least for now. 179 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:45,139 We try, but then we decided to adopt. 180 00:12:45,223 --> 00:12:48,017 Me parece un modo hermoso to help a child. 181 00:12:49,602 --> 00:12:51,187 Nunca lo hab�a visto as�. 182 00:12:52,146 --> 00:12:56,693 Para ser sincera, lo hice por m�. 183 00:12:58,277 --> 00:12:59,487 Can't it be both? 184 00:13:02,198 --> 00:13:04,200 Sometimes I think if we are enough for him 185 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:07,996 or if it would have been better for him go with others. 186 00:13:09,497 --> 00:13:11,290 Yo creo que es muy afortunado. 187 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:15,294 I don't know. 188 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,046 How to know? 189 00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:23,136 Sometimes I get up at night and I watch him sleep. 190 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:28,641 I can't help but wonder who it was... 191 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,227 ...before getting here. 192 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:36,733 What did he see, what did he hear? 193 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:43,573 Did anyone hug him if he cried? 194 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:01,966 It's lovely. 195 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:08,473 I would love to know what happened in his little head. 196 00:14:10,141 --> 00:14:11,476 It's always the mother. 197 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:14,187 Everyone has a crazy mother. 198 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:15,521 Or an absent father. 199 00:14:16,314 --> 00:14:18,441 Benjamin changed when his father ran away. 200 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:22,403 - Maybe it's not the mother. - Aren't all parents absent? 201 00:14:22,779 --> 00:14:24,447 Mine was never there. 202 00:14:24,530 --> 00:14:28,451 Imagine the life of Benjamin and Rose if he hadn't gone. 203 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:30,328 Would it have changed that much? 204 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:36,084 - Didn't your father talk to you? - No. 205 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:38,711 But you talk to Brian. 206 00:14:42,340 --> 00:14:43,383 Do you want another one? 207 00:14:46,302 --> 00:14:48,513 - Did you take him to the scene? - Yes. 208 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:51,307 �See all our notes about the tests? 209 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:53,476 - Yes, he showed him everything. - And? 210 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:55,353 I will accuse Benjamin first. 211 00:14:55,436 --> 00:14:57,146 One moment. Repeat that. 212 00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:59,232 I will only accuse Benjamin. 213 00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:01,275 - That's not right. - Is it Ocasek? 214 00:15:01,359 --> 00:15:03,277 He trusts that by condemning him... 215 00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:05,655 It's obvious that he didn't understand. 216 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:07,782 I explained it to them just as they said, 217 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:09,367 but he wasn't interested. 218 00:15:09,450 --> 00:15:11,369 - Let's talk later. - I'm sorry. 219 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:12,745 It's not your fault, Mark. 220 00:15:12,829 --> 00:15:15,123 I'll talk to someone, then I'll call you. 221 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:16,999 - Good. - What's wrong? 222 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:18,835 The prosecutor will go for Benjamin, 223 00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:21,087 So I'll offer you a deal 224 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:22,839 to Frank and Rose for testifying. 225 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:25,425 "Ocasek mentioned" Frank's background? 226 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:26,717 Surely yes. 227 00:15:26,801 --> 00:15:28,803 It is the most dangerous of the three. 228 00:15:28,886 --> 00:15:31,764 We have to talk to him, help him understand. 229 00:15:31,848 --> 00:15:33,307 Today I have a statement. 230 00:15:33,391 --> 00:15:35,351 - I can't until tomorrow. - I'm coming. 231 00:15:37,228 --> 00:15:38,563 Better go with him. 232 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:48,156 It is evident that, in this case, 233 00:15:48,239 --> 00:15:51,033 anger was aroused due to stressors 234 00:15:51,117 --> 00:15:53,578 related to his fiancee. 235 00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:54,662 "Stressful"? 236 00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:57,457 Dramatic experiences that upset them both. 237 00:15:57,540 --> 00:16:00,168 Janderman was married and about to be a father. 238 00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:03,087 But he didn't want to be a father. I hated the idea. 239 00:16:03,171 --> 00:16:06,382 - Is that a cell phone? - No. It's a stressor. 240 00:16:07,216 --> 00:16:08,593 They say it was Frank? 241 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:10,887 Benjamin couldn't do it alone. 242 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:12,889 Did Frank provoke Benjamin? 243 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,515 I pushed him. Yes. 244 00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:17,727 Frank saw the possibility and raped Beverly Jean. 245 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:20,313 - Circumstantial motivation... - Wait. 246 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:22,773 - Circumstantial? - Not preferential, yes. 247 00:16:22,857 --> 00:16:25,443 Oh. My question is this: 248 00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:27,528 who killed her? 249 00:16:27,612 --> 00:16:29,614 All three are responsible. 250 00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:32,366 - Did everyone mutilate her? - No, that was Benjamin. 251 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:35,369 Frank and Benjamin They left it in the garbage can. 252 00:16:35,453 --> 00:16:38,498 Benjamin returned a few days later. He couldn't help it. 253 00:16:38,581 --> 00:16:41,250 I had a lot of stress. And with the knife... 254 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:44,879 I'm going to stop her there, because I have a problem. 255 00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:46,172 How to prove it? 256 00:16:46,255 --> 00:16:49,592 I came to give you an intelligent and precise analysis. 257 00:16:49,675 --> 00:16:52,970 If a jury can't understand it, what's the use? 258 00:16:53,054 --> 00:16:56,349 I agree. But it's not my job make him understand it. 259 00:16:56,432 --> 00:16:57,308 It's yours. 260 00:16:57,391 --> 00:16:59,769 And he has all our trust. 261 00:17:05,483 --> 00:17:07,568 How to translate it so that it works for you? 262 00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:11,113 They say they killed her Benjamin and Frank, correct? 263 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:12,573 It's complicated, I know. 264 00:17:12,657 --> 00:17:16,285 Benjamin knocked her unconscious because he felt rejected, 265 00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:17,662 a stress factor. 266 00:17:17,745 --> 00:17:19,914 He tied her up and called his brother-in-law Frank 267 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:21,332 without knowing what to do. 268 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:25,002 Frank arrives, takes advantage of the situation, He rapes her. 269 00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:29,006 Benjamin doesn't stop him because he wants to see her humiliated. 270 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:31,133 Frank knows he's in trouble, 271 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:33,928 so start telling him that she is a slut. 272 00:17:34,011 --> 00:17:36,472 And Benjamin can't stand it. 273 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:38,015 They kill her. 274 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,810 Rose is called to help clean up. 275 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:44,772 Rosa sees the poor girl in the bathtub and sees that she is alive. 276 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:46,649 They stab her again. 277 00:17:47,149 --> 00:17:49,068 And they take the body to the garbage dump. 278 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:53,698 OK. 279 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:56,826 OK. 280 00:17:57,785 --> 00:17:59,579 - It was ok. - Do you think so? 281 00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:04,834 Yes. What do you think I didn't understand? 282 00:18:05,751 --> 00:18:08,254 You know these people, I don't. 283 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:11,257 I saw him determined to blame Benjamin, 284 00:18:11,340 --> 00:18:13,259 and I don't know if I managed to dissuade him. 285 00:18:14,719 --> 00:18:17,346 In the end he seemed very attentive. 286 00:18:18,055 --> 00:18:22,143 I think you made it very clear which were the three. 287 00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:24,103 If so, we are fine. 288 00:18:24,186 --> 00:18:25,521 Yes, we are fine. 289 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,821 - What is it like to travel so much? - How? 290 00:18:33,904 --> 00:18:35,698 Have half a life in Boston. 291 00:18:36,866 --> 00:18:37,783 What? 292 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:41,370 Are you tired of coming and going? 293 00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,998 Traveling confused me a lot 294 00:18:44,081 --> 00:18:45,958 with traveling classes. 295 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:51,130 Does small talk relieve your anxiety? 296 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:54,467 I guess. 297 00:18:58,179 --> 00:18:59,221 Well. 298 00:20:06,288 --> 00:20:07,456 - Hello. - Hello. 299 00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:09,834 I thought you were coming back tomorrow. 300 00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:11,544 Yes. Changed plans. 301 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:13,212 I had told you. 302 00:20:13,295 --> 00:20:16,298 I'm sorry. I'm very happy that you have arrived before. 303 00:20:19,343 --> 00:20:20,386 Hello. 304 00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:26,767 You look tired. 305 00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:31,063 You are beautiful, but also a little tired. 306 00:20:31,647 --> 00:20:33,899 Thank you. I'm fine. 307 00:20:33,983 --> 00:20:37,486 If you want, go home and change, I will finish some things. 308 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,072 Yes. Well. 309 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:44,618 I actually wanted to talk to you about something. 310 00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:46,495 It would be great if it were today. 311 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:47,580 What? 312 00:20:48,205 --> 00:20:49,999 No, it's okay. It can wait. 313 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,169 Come on, tell me. 314 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,296 I don't think he even tried to understand me. 315 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:57,923 I just wanted new slang to repeat. 316 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:01,552 Those people, intellectually, reached its limit. 317 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:04,013 They will never reach deeper 318 00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:06,599 They won't even speak your language. 319 00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:08,642 I see them as quite intuitive. 320 00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:11,270 I'm not talking about my colleagues. 321 00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:12,521 Your colleagues? 322 00:21:13,022 --> 00:21:15,775 - Are you an FBI agent? - Don't be stupid. 323 00:21:17,902 --> 00:21:20,070 But this is what I wanted to talk to you about. 324 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:25,409 I'm having a hard time driving my research and everything here. 325 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:26,869 I warned you what would happen. 326 00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:31,832 I feel split in two. I don't comply anywhere. 327 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:34,543 And he should spend more time at Quantico. 328 00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:36,670 It seems like a bad idea to me. 329 00:21:40,966 --> 00:21:43,761 - But you will know. - I'm not sure... 330 00:21:43,844 --> 00:21:45,554 That's why I wanted to talk about it. 331 00:21:46,764 --> 00:21:50,684 I don't have to remind you that the review is in three months. 332 00:21:51,936 --> 00:21:54,146 If you are not a starter, you will have to leave. 333 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:55,731 Don't remind me. 334 00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:59,443 It's no secret that it hurts me see you wasting time there. 335 00:21:59,527 --> 00:22:00,653 Waste time? 336 00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:04,073 Do you think I'm wasting my time? 337 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:07,034 - I don't want to argue about this. - Me neither. 338 00:22:07,827 --> 00:22:10,579 Love, work in what will make you develop. 339 00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:12,998 They offered me full time. 340 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:15,209 And? 341 00:22:17,795 --> 00:22:19,129 You're not serious. 342 00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:20,589 Why do you say that? 343 00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:24,468 It will be flattering, but come on, you said it. 344 00:22:24,552 --> 00:22:27,012 Those people reached their intellectual limits. 345 00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:28,514 I didn't say that. 346 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,060 Do they know you're a lesbian? 347 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:37,439 - Of course not. - Exact. It can't be you. 348 00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:41,068 Are you going to hide half your life? 349 00:22:41,151 --> 00:22:43,153 - I do it here. - How? 350 00:22:43,237 --> 00:22:45,489 Your friends can't know about the FBI 351 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:48,117 - because it would make you look bad. - Please. 352 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:55,499 I told Will and Gore that I would go have something with them. 353 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:56,625 Please. 354 00:22:58,127 --> 00:22:59,295 Come with me. 355 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,507 In society, everyone takes care of their behavior 356 00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:07,344 to avoid personal or other people's embarrassment. 357 00:23:07,428 --> 00:23:11,807 The very idea of being embarrassed or pass it on to others 358 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:14,977 for being yourself It speaks of a deep betrayal. 359 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:16,353 Betrayal! 360 00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:18,147 Goffman saw a connection 361 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:22,735 between the acts or the masks what people wear in their daily lives 362 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:25,195 and in theatrical works. 363 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:28,032 In social interaction, like in the theater, 364 00:23:28,115 --> 00:23:31,952 there is a stage where people or actors 365 00:23:32,036 --> 00:23:33,954 they appear in front of the public. 366 00:23:34,038 --> 00:23:36,248 But there is always behind the scenes, 367 00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:39,835 a hidden, private area, where one can be oneself. 368 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:42,713 Sounds great, Annaliese, but you don't understand. 369 00:23:42,796 --> 00:23:44,673 - Excuse me. - There is no shame 370 00:23:44,757 --> 00:23:47,343 in the hidden and private place. 371 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,678 Behind the scenes is not the harmful thing. 372 00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:52,931 We must let ourselves be caught for your melodrama? 373 00:24:11,116 --> 00:24:12,284 What happened, Mark? 374 00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:14,495 - It may be late. - Is he here? 375 00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:16,205 - Yes. - Let's talk to him. 376 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:18,332 I know they come from far away... 377 00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:20,459 Four hours by car in winter. 378 00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:23,420 - What's done is done. - We'll see. 379 00:24:28,384 --> 00:24:29,760 Did they negotiate the sentence? 380 00:24:29,843 --> 00:24:32,680 He pleaded guilty to murder in third grade. 381 00:24:32,763 --> 00:24:35,808 It will be 5 to 20 years old in a psychiatric prison. 382 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:38,977 - You misunderstood us. - They did a great job. 383 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,854 They almost figured it out. 384 00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:42,773 Only Frank didn't do anything. 385 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,149 You know it is. 386 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:47,736 The expert in psychopathy and sexual homicides 387 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:49,947 from Boston University said 388 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:52,658 that Frank motivated Benjamin to kill and... 389 00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:54,493 He said he provoked him. 390 00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,662 And then Benjamin disfigured her. 391 00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:57,996 And you know what? 392 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,331 Frank confirmed everything. 393 00:24:59,415 --> 00:25:03,544 But Carr was wrong about one thing. Frank didn't rape her. It was Benjamin. 394 00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:05,587 She was already dead when Frank arrived. 395 00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:08,006 - Wait. - He said that Benjamin was jealous, 396 00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:10,092 that he felt sexually humiliated. 397 00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:11,051 It's a mobile. 398 00:25:11,135 --> 00:25:13,137 - I misunderstood. - I have the report. 399 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:15,556 I read it. It says the opposite. 400 00:25:15,639 --> 00:25:18,559 Benjamin was powerless due to stress factors. 401 00:25:18,642 --> 00:25:22,062 I was frustrated and humiliated. He couldn't rape the victim. 402 00:25:22,146 --> 00:25:24,064 I understand the justice of your cause, 403 00:25:24,148 --> 00:25:27,693 but it is a very difficult and disturbing case. 404 00:25:27,776 --> 00:25:29,695 There is very little forensic evidence. 405 00:25:29,778 --> 00:25:31,613 Almost everything is circumstantial. 406 00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:33,907 Is our evidence circumstantial? 407 00:25:36,243 --> 00:25:38,746 Frank told us where the breasts were. 408 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,039 - Benjamin had them. - And? 409 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:43,584 He is jealous, sexually frustrated 410 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:46,795 and has the victim's breasts in the backyard. 411 00:25:47,254 --> 00:25:49,506 The other tells us what happened. 412 00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:51,800 There is a chasm between killing a woman 413 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,469 and mutilate his body. 414 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,930 Negotiating the sentence was the only thing against a failed trial. 415 00:25:57,014 --> 00:25:58,640 Leave Frank unpunished. 416 00:25:58,724 --> 00:26:01,101 He doesn't deserve five years in hospice. 417 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:04,188 - They should give him life. - Five to 20 years. 418 00:26:04,271 --> 00:26:07,149 And the defense alleges that they should have taken care of him 419 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,942 the first time he was admitted. 420 00:26:09,026 --> 00:26:11,153 That the state had to improve it. 421 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:12,988 It's never going to get better. 422 00:26:13,739 --> 00:26:15,115 I have to make a call. 423 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:38,639 It gives you a lesser penalty to the real culprit. 424 00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:41,558 When Wendy explained it to her, he seemed to understand. 425 00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,270 I didn't know if I would convince the jury. 426 00:26:46,855 --> 00:26:48,899 - That's hermetic. - I didn't try. 427 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:55,030 No hard feelings, right? 428 00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:57,366 I know it's not what they expected. 429 00:26:57,449 --> 00:27:00,828 But all three are imprisoned and Benjamin will go to the chair. 430 00:27:00,911 --> 00:27:02,037 Not bad. 431 00:27:03,831 --> 00:27:04,998 They know what it is like. 432 00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:08,752 We must consider the capacity of the jury. 433 00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:10,587 We cannot ignore it. 434 00:27:10,671 --> 00:27:14,132 The goal is the highest quality of justice at the lowest cost. 435 00:27:14,216 --> 00:27:15,759 This is all nonsense. 436 00:27:17,261 --> 00:27:18,595 Let's go get a sandwich. 437 00:27:18,679 --> 00:27:20,639 Outside of Kansas, they are the best. 438 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:22,891 - No, thanks. - My appetite is gone. 439 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:24,393 We must go. 440 00:27:25,227 --> 00:27:27,980 Well. Thanks for everything. 441 00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:43,579 What's the point of all this? If we can't communicate it to who cares? 442 00:27:45,414 --> 00:27:46,582 I don't know. 443 00:28:04,641 --> 00:28:06,059 The process is key. 444 00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:10,063 We must refine the method and make ourselves idiot-proof. 445 00:28:10,147 --> 00:28:11,189 With more subjects. 446 00:28:11,273 --> 00:28:13,609 - Like Kemper, please. - Nice time. 447 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:17,404 You will see people with similar pathologies, 448 00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,156 but the way to kill 449 00:28:19,239 --> 00:28:22,284 It's so individual like the way to have sex. 450 00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:23,785 And just as complicated. 451 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:27,372 Jerome Brudos. The king of souvenirs. 452 00:28:27,456 --> 00:28:29,458 - The one with the shoes? -Who is it? 453 00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:33,128 It's from six or seven years ago. Sometimes he dressed as a woman. 454 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:35,547 And he amputated the breasts of two victims. 455 00:28:35,964 --> 00:28:39,051 - Like Benjamin. - Thematic. Wendy loves patterns. 456 00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:41,053 Finding patterns is crucial. 457 00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:43,138 But this one went a little further. 458 00:28:43,222 --> 00:28:46,433 I used my breasts to shape some bronze paperweights. 459 00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:47,559 Creative. 460 00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:50,812 Another had his foot amputated and kept it in the freezer. 461 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,773 And he collected women's shoes 462 00:28:52,856 --> 00:28:54,650 which he used to masturbate. 463 00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,611 - We can learn a lot from him. - Forward. 464 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,864 This time, with the questionnaire. 465 00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:03,700 Do we agree? 466 00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:06,995 We have to be able to distinguish similarities and differences 467 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,747 to code it well. 468 00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:10,707 If not, we waste time. 469 00:29:10,791 --> 00:29:12,751 Sometimes you have to use intuition. 470 00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,462 As soon as you enter, you can trust your instinct. 471 00:29:15,545 --> 00:29:17,339 But when you made him talk, 472 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:20,676 protocols allow us generate systematic data. 473 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,220 - It makes sense. -What else about Brudos? 474 00:29:23,303 --> 00:29:26,348 As a teenager, he stole lingerie. 475 00:29:26,431 --> 00:29:27,557 Soon he was raiding houses 476 00:29:27,641 --> 00:29:30,352 to steal underwear, shoes and dresses. 477 00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:33,355 And finally he started kidnapping and killing. 478 00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,399 He was already married with two children. 479 00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:37,693 This file is an encyclopedia. 480 00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,153 Do you think we will get something new? 481 00:29:40,237 --> 00:29:41,446 Definitely. 482 00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:44,074 In all of this, not a word sheds light 483 00:29:44,157 --> 00:29:45,826 about what you thought or felt 484 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:48,161 before, during or after. 485 00:29:48,245 --> 00:29:50,747 Nothing about its principles, its logic. 486 00:29:50,831 --> 00:29:52,958 - Logic? - Its internal logic, yes. 487 00:29:53,041 --> 00:29:55,460 Which I hope we will decipher one day. 488 00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:59,798 Agreed, then. Brudos is next. 489 00:29:59,881 --> 00:30:00,799 Yes. 490 00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:03,343 Can I use that room? 491 00:30:04,261 --> 00:30:06,430 - For what? - As an office. 492 00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:08,265 Clear. All yours. 493 00:30:09,725 --> 00:30:11,476 - Shall I help you? - No. 494 00:30:12,019 --> 00:30:14,771 I like this, organizing my space. 495 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:17,774 He stays. 496 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,484 Carver was right. 497 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,487 You are Sherlock Holmes. 498 00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:40,881 The bedroom is very spacious and the kitchen is renovated. 499 00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:42,257 It's very quiet. 500 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:44,885 Professionals and travelers, above all. 501 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:47,346 Stewardesses, some pilots. 502 00:30:47,429 --> 00:30:48,597 Some teacher. 503 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:50,223 Are you married? 504 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:51,892 No. 505 00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:53,769 Are you looking for temporary rental? 506 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,020 For a start. 507 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,189 Is everyone furnished? 508 00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:59,483 Yes. It is one of the attractions here. 509 00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:01,777 You take the key and that's it. 510 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:07,491 There are activities for singles, if you are interested. 511 00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:10,369 And a very good tennis teacher. 512 00:31:10,452 --> 00:31:12,204 I work long hours. 513 00:31:13,455 --> 00:31:16,792 Why have you chosen this area? from Virginia, if I may ask? 514 00:31:17,334 --> 00:31:18,335 I come to Quantico. 515 00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:22,130 Do you work at the Agency? 516 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:26,134 Something like that. Under investigation. 517 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:27,928 How interesting.